Dashing blade | bears | rattle (5)
[SABER] = [BEARS] [anagram]
Extra-terrestrial | brought back by | Neil Armstrong | clandestinely (5)
[ALIEN] = [reverse] [NEIL Armstrong] [hidden]
Shore | lost in | Paradise as ideal (7)
[SEASIDE] = [hidden] [paradiSE AS IDEal]
Bumbling | weight-control group | had | seafood (6)
[OAFISH] = [Overeaters Anonymous] [+] [FISH]
In no instance tell Isadore any lies supporting word origins or monograms (7)
[In No Instance Tell Isadore Any Lies Supporting] [first letters] [=] [INITIALS]
 LAT |  Seattle Times sNYT 6/26/14 |
Two Cryptic clues from the Seattle Times, a homophone and something else:
At the meridian, there is no east and west (4)
Hearer of Oracle pronouncement (7)
Three Cryptic clues from LAT, including a reversal and a homophone:
Pakistanis wrap return on investments (4)
Sound investment for ranger (4)
Familiar old strings used for radical idea in space shuttle program (6)
Owen
ReplyDeleteI did not see your "St. Gaol pointlessly wandered to flourish" Where is it? Very interesting coincidence then, and an example of divergent evolution from a common genotype (clue) to a different phenotype (answer).
Your analysis of my clue was correct. I was trying to make the "St." into a diversion for Saint, with Gaol looking almost like a woman's name.
Anon T: I agree with Owen's analysis of your clue - Too many layers (like an onion, eh, Donkey?), and must have a "definition" part that is separate (usually at the beginning or end of the clue).
Owen: Most Brit-Crypts will allow a second layer, if a cryptic partial clue is wrapped around (forward or backward) other partial clues; but a full-blown rearrangement is pushing it. No third levels though, unless perhaps the cryptic answer is also the entire (defined) answer.
Now to your clues. All about equally doable.
sNYT1: Score: 8: Nice clue. A novel way of indicating a palindrome; note though, there IS an East and West, they just happen to look the same. The definition part is listed as "literary" in my MacDictionary, but still clear enough.
sNYT2: Score 9: Very Nice. Would have been very tricky without the list of possible answers provided in the grid, and telling us to look for a homophone.
LAT1: Score 6: Well, you just did the crypto-reversal. But I think you need an apostrophe in Pakistanis, since you need to crypto-clue accurately if you are going to play with the initial crypto-answer. I realize that messes up the flow of the clue as written.
LAT2: Score 6: Nice flow, great initial phrase. I'm not sure "ranger" is sufficient though, since it does not strictly "define" the answer. "Sound investment for certain type of ranger" maybe.
LAT3: Score 6: Nice opening, but I don't see how "radical idea" becomes "rad".
Maybe: Familiar old strings define ionizing dose in space shuttle program (6)
My clue in next post.
NC
My clue
ReplyDeleteG-string is equivalent to Eastern sound combination (5).
NC
One more:
ReplyDeleteHeard about the old British loaf? (3,5)
NC
Cuppa: Thanks for the analysis! Helps keep me on my toes!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you know meridian {Latin: merideim} is what the M in AM & PM stands for, but not AM & FM. The International Date Line is a meridian, and from there looking west you're looking at the East, looking east you're looking at the West!
Aha! for twice I think your British vocabulary has been a stumbling block for you instead of being a stumbling block for us trying to suss your clues! Rad is common slang for radical idea, and you seem unfamiliar with the legendary Lone Ranger.
Different constructors have different conventions. I consider capitalization, apostrophes, and hyphens to be punctuation that can be messed with, added or subtracted with impunity. Some constructors consider those things part of the spelling and so inviolate.
Got your clue for 32, but not sure I properly see how you derived it.
Hi Owen & NC - Thanks for the feedback. I'm truly trying to understand these as I see them in paper when I'm in CA or UK. So, mine was too much obfuscation - I guess rule 1: you can't read my mind :-)
ReplyDeleteHow about this from LAT?:
Scrambled-egg side kills
Owen I think I got just one of your's, NC I think I understood both of yours.
Cheers, -T
Owen - my train of thought; Scrambled == mix up | side | kills == definition. So, DIES (5a). Getting warmer? C, -T
ReplyDelete-T: Much closer! Two quibbles, neither tremendously major. Extraneous word "egg", shouldn't be there, although it could be okay if considered part of "scrambled-egg".
ReplyDeleteAlso part of speech (is that the relevant term?) needs to agree. "Kills" and "dies" aren't the same. "Lizzie kills, Mom dies" is quite different from "Lizzie dies, Mom kills."
Scrambled side-order passed would be excellent.
OwenKL - Thanks for the feed-back; I see how your's is better. I'll never fully grasp Cryptics, but will keep trying - just like the LAT :-). Cheers, -T
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